There's this -- clearly -- bruises and love on -- every day that you. -- one and all of popped loose along with Paul still on trial from Wichita eagle we're here to get you through your. Monday -- cooler Monday we went out in the yard to water this morning Paul. Couldn't believe the Christmas Christmas in the air I'm ready for some sign -- things like assistants on cloud nine. So are you depressed involvement on the all the cool when -- then yes we need some heat looks analyst brings immediate right away were Jack what's Jack. Good morning Bob. Been following his -- brown thing a little bit -- Like you recession and then as -- what -- sides have a senior president in Manhattan would it -- have a good day. Appreciate the column and we're definitely gonna get in them to Bryce Brown here. Wanna make sure I get into my quotes straight so. We'll probably talk about Bryce Brown in the second segment today and go talk to Topeka capital journal. Sports columnist Kevin has been coming up at the bottom of the -- Give his thoughts on Bryce Brown but I was I was alarmed at some of the things Bryce Brown said and some of the things -- Done during the summer to prepare. To be a player at Kansas State. I know you read the story and I'm sure you felt the same one. Yeah I was just kind of I guess -- you'd expect we've been around you know without. The reading north area but I don't girlfriend college. If -- not knowing a lot of specifics I think you've been around coaches enough to know that they liked you want to be on their program. To be in their town in and working with the team and when you're not. Evidently bill Snyder's. Is a little concerned. We'll see what happens again we'll talk more in depth about Bryce Brown in his situation. If there is a situation at Kansas State coming up. After our first break I wanted to first get to first -- wanted to just talked to Paul haven't seen him all summer. What even -- You know a lot of a lot of vacations. -- not Wichita State do some stuff to some track. They're not the NBC last week firm I guess four days four hot days and saw a lot of weather out there and saw a lot of baseball. Lot of clouds ominous clouds out of the NBC I understand there were the one night it was it was quite bizarre it was almost like the Royals game yesterday if you watch their delay were just kind of it was real hot -- came out of nowhere and it when when it came it was it was quite ferocious. You've been impressed with what you've seen that the NBC because our come claim. I'm ashamed that I have not been to the NBC. Did I it just I don't understand and I don't get why. Yeah I'm not more drawn to. You know every year. I kinda I don't really look forward to the NBC but then I get out there and you know just like it's like in Italy about school term when you've got 32 teams are always games going on that are inevitably there's going to be interesting things happening. So there's always this competition gap you know and so there's always something going on there's always you know interesting people to talk to is always interesting plays you always go out there and see something that you would rarely see. Now you know I don't think there's any doubt that the that the level of talent is now -- was and that's not just coming from me you know you -- people -- -- -- the NBC for many years and I think. You look at the rosters and a lot of small school guys it's a lot of junior college guys it's a lot of guys from schools are the prominent baseball schools. Which is different there was maybe ten or fifteen years ago and not to some of those guys can't play enough that they aren't you know competitive interesting baseball games. But I think it is different from that standpoint. So they NBC ongoing we've got to who -- in the home stretch now that concludes Saturday night. At a launched Dumont stadium or down to a point now worth three games a night yes that's different. And I think this is when it gets really interesting you know over the weekend. Because I guess my view of the NBC is there's probably I don't know -- you know on -- 32 teams there's maybe ten or twelve that are really. And maybe eight to ten or twelve that are that are really good there really. And then you've kind of got you got to get through that first week and kind of weed out some of the pretenders and and now you're down the point where you've got some really good baseball teams that are still around and it's kind of easy to follow now you can understand who's unbeaten who's kind of in the driver Eaton and who's who's playing from behind. In listening to Paul sole topic covers Wichita State's sports for the which -- eagle and Kansas dot com. Glad to have him and today Bruce will be back on Friday. He's down Las Vegas -- it'll gambling Saturday. And a new -- Oklahoma went down to see the collective souls showdown there -- -- you know that's why I can cross that off my bucket -- I've always wanted to -- collective soul. I love their sound I love their music. And they didn't disappoint. They played about an hour and forty minutes that played all their hits. They really really rock they get after. Enjoyed it immensely and what is that venue like this it's an interesting opinion. They line -- through the casino to get into the play a certain long lines long lines. I'm guess and 3500 people 3000 to 3500 it's. Just kind of a little barn area that to set up chairs. You go -- you sit down and and you listen to the show today played one song you drove all the way down there yes time you have on your mind all the way in and -- it. You know how I am I looked up their set list so He can do you can find out anything now and the citizens. There's no mystery. I wanted to see what they played not only on this atlas to that because see what they played that I could play all the songs and they would. There would be an accompanying video. Now yeah. So you aren't there different I was prepared for what I was -- -- they follow the -- -- Exactly but it was a good time and you went to Pittsburgh right. And it just didn't know we were in new Kirk. -- all in general and yes summer on relaxed now Gettysburg in Pittsburgh and -- PNC park uses absolutely. Fabulous. As good as it looks on TV. Mean it's just an amazing. Park in an amazing setting in. We had a wonderful time there to -- and have a good summer -- what's been your big summer trip. We're not Colorado took boys out there made a couple friends from Boston and Colorado did some to some hiking in all typical -- -- stuff into the Boston guys -- it mean to they were good they were good there are there. They like to get out hike. You know the and miles around in Massachusetts New England so yes they were well prepared for that. That sounds like the sounds like fun I'd like to do that from time not a golfer so you didn't get in any golf course no golf no golf no. Just typical summer stuff. I don't know why you know you you you took in the NBA Latin the last couple years you really become an NBA guy. However worry about whether you're gonna have anything to watch this season I think that's legitimate -- that you really. When need deepen the NBA I'm surprised you don't just say yourself you know what I'm an athlete I've got some game I mean I'm not I can walk and chew gum -- one of them to take golf club promoter Don has some balls. Yeah I don't think I have enough. The patience of just on the metal that's on golf is such. Tell me. It's never never even. It's probably best to avoid it was so. Now my I think that's probably -- -- in the fourth through 61240 let's start off with. Yesterday the World Series of golf championship. Is that what they called World Golf Championship and Akron. Adam Scott blows away the field played from tremendously and who. Was on his bag other than Stevie Williams. Formally Tiger Woods' caddie tiger struggled all weekend after an opening round 68 in which He played well He really struggle after that. Thank you finished one over for the tournament. Adam Scott blew him away news' Steve Williams after the match making comments. That should have thinly veiled references to his times and Tiger Woods and so in some cases not veiled at all what Jamaica. I thought it was interesting that. It's made the first time I've ever seen the caddie be the bigger story in the and the guy was Kaeding for a minute Steve Williams seem to be believed He was the first interview and Ryan got a lot of attention because of his association with Tiger Woods so that so. I guess that speaks more to the power of Tiger Woods and even when he's. Not involved he's still the unit is that is it is a fact is still the lead story for golf. And He wasn't shy about the mentioning Tiger Woods and calling this win. With Adams got. The biggest of his career. -- made the statement about Butler tiger's fault too because you know four years ago you take on Tiger Woods in the in the world golf because he's so. So powerful but here's a guy is a -- he's not afraid to -- on mountain not usual fans chant thinks. Easy Stevie as it comes down the eighteenth Stevie Williams as He comes -- Eighteenth fairway it was just it was. Odd. I don't know how I feel I'm not a Steve Williams guy. I thought when He was on tiger's bag the use of Bruton. Rude to people and I added that. Watching him this weekend I've paid fairly good attention to this golf tournament. Different guy smiling. So you know it just a different guy. What what is the caddies main. Benefit is it psychological or they're there to kind of Su and and talk them through and be an emotional Holland are they an effort for technical reasons for their their free yardage reasons club. Club aspects. But yeah a lot of it's psychological a lot of it is. You know -- okay -- we got this club everything's good let's get out us. I'd say it's 5050 I'd say it's it's an even break as to what it caddie brings to a player. But Adam Scott Green. Pretty impressive over the weekend -- -- -- -- Williams elevate him can -- mean I guess I'm Scott believes He can that's I think you know part of me in the belief does is as important as anything else. Well I mean Steve Williams is a confident guy and unlike most caddie is a mean and not the caddies are confident but He just He has a presence about him that. Is unique among ex caddies I would think. And tiger had his childhood friend and they were. Kind of making fun and make analyst. And well liked at Woodward the no offense to -- it but you learn -- Pirates but didn't see that. Falls area can talk about a variety of subjects as it pertains to Wichita state of course analysts. Give Brady show you wanna talk shocker groups. Yeah it all that can maybe give a brief overview on the shark fans can expect this year. -- about all the things you change -- this summer. Ask if you. It's not going to Brazil on the setup. Early exhibition. So. Our thanks very thank you have Brazil would have been fun. You would have been a long time of the northern going to be gone for eleven days. So I think it was one of those things have they have had to -- -- -- -- Allen gone then they're not hand. I can't say I'm terribly upset you one thing I did go to Canada a few years ago and I and -- in my mind overwhelming memory of that trip is riding a lot of stories about Wendell freedom. Who played really well in Canada good. You've never really turn out to be much of a factor for. Really allowed us to believe that He was going to be got a call I'll never forget that -- tees on several all Missouri Valley Conference receives -- -- Based on my irresponsible reporting the the so you know I think this whole thing is going to be very valuable for them very valuable for the women who are going to Italy and what's up with this thing as far as you know those four -- five games that they play in Brazil went to and we do they get out of those you know we won't know that for for awhile. The elm disease busy summer for the shocker to travel all over. I I still you know as we've had since the end of last season I've wondered about there. Frontline depth and and what they're gonna get out of some guys up there are no Garrett Stutz in the IT if He plays like that we're talking about a all -- -- Talking about it -- you know an outstanding. Guy that could could averaged 1415. Points a game. I don't know I don't know do I trust Garrett -- to be that guy during his senior year. Yeah that'll be a big question and he's kind of gone from a you know maybe an unknown for the first three years to now we're kind of considering him -- known. And I think that's fair I think -- good effort on Garrett you know if you look it is. Stats I think last year He may be averaged fourteen or fifteen minutes a game you know if you start to look at him plain and -- do that 3.5. -- foul trouble I think is going to be doing things for him and maybe our whole front line. You know He may -- -- Antibiotics. Go to -- you'd probably be right about him over in Brazil I would be viewed as a guy looks like the guy looks like He should be an all American. And then He gets out on the Florida doesn't quite come to him as soon as easily as you'd you'd like it to have have you seen some strides. With hammer can you even tell -- imaging what you're saying the window freedom stuff right notwithstanding. Yeah it's it's it's difficult to tell I think there's times that I watched He made over the summer a couple things that stood out one. He's I think he's working real hard to develop. A little baby hook He needs some. Go to offensive moves that He is confident in and I think I've seen some progress in him. You know He gets the ball and He can kind of boat slip up a little kind of half hook shot. That's something yet you know He has to have yesterday some sort of offensive threat out there. I think is big problem is to simply catching the ball and you know and and hold on to time to -- their watch and you know He would. It would be tough for him to catch passes it would be tougher and to catch balls off the rebound eventually he'll latch onto and as far as catching the ball cleanly and make him a quick move. That's not enough -- super comfortable with yet. I just keep going back to him -- I said all along He just needs to play a lot of basketball he's you know we started out behind all those other guys and He just needs to play -- plane -- -- -- all. I did not see a lot of interest whatever reason whenever I would go out there He was not around the little that I saw from what I've heard. Physical guy who's gonna rebound and defend and set picks and do all those things I don't think he's super skilled offensively. But I don't you know I think He is exactly what they need they need some maybe some muscle in these guys can rebound and defend. And let's give back to the phones and cam hello Kim. No. Well probably want to know what about -- or worse for the basketball roster straight years there's this week. Okay we'll lose would be what do you think well I really haven't had a about opportunity to play very much Egyptian. Well we're here to answer all your all your questions one stop. Well back case you. They lose a lot they lose -- Morris plans they lose. I already Brady Morningstar who else -- -- Josh Selby who was baptized John Taylor and Thomas Robinson back the two guys. Those of the two names you really know there are some others Travis -- offered. His back Jeff with the is back they have some other recognizable names but it's going to be a very interesting year -- I would think this would be here they're not going to be picked you know maybe in the top ten like they usually are but it. Sure it'll be very -- that I know I haven't read some great things about Thomas -- in the summer I think he's been very impressive -- it's -- going to be again. You know we'll step up with them. This -- there will look like a completely different team out there are going to be interesting they have. A lot of new players. They missed out on some of our most high profile recruits. Which they're not used to missing out on both. They get they have to recruit some guys late that may be may and we'll talk to Kevin asking about this the may be wouldn't BK -- players if the jayhawks hadn't been kind of forced -- taken up some guys late in the recruiting years but K he's always going to be did is just a matter of what degree I think -- -- on the big twelve. This year and basketball -- you ask yourself who is gonna be that team. Texas lost to Tom. Texas Sam's gonna have a new coach Missouri. Has a new coach. Colorado has gone. Who is gonna be that team in the big twelve this year I think it's completely up for grabs. Why not dictate you. That would be Saints. Yeah I'm sure they'll be very good then antennae on the show. Believe that a problem back. Certain how he's -- a shocker oops I mean we're here whether. -- and -- about. We're going to be an update for which. He wouldn't matter out just like -- -- are some players are I know that. Aren't thanks Anthony. Although we have anything lined up in terms of getting some reports out of Brazil which tossed it has has people over there are so they'll be able to see his strength now and now -- summer the summer to -- tumors sometimes a little. Sketchy as far as stat taking all those kind of stuff so I'm not you know I guess -- we'll see but I know what -- -- somebody over there and I wouldn't. Think they'll be part is not Larry rank Canas a Murray -- Handed off to to a junior member of the sports information department that's surprising because I know how Larry likes Brazilian women. I'm I'm very shocked that He would do that. You tendencies. Are from turn on the beaches and I think they're going to soccer content that does sound like Larry. Has really -- us. I had four through 61240 let's take a break will come back talked to Kevin has skin of the speak capital journal. Here -- the standings the results from NASCAR picks last week I'm just looking at them for the first time. Boy bruises just. The kids just got the golden touch. He finishes second to me. He also gets 25 points it does this include all the points taken off. So I win the week. I had three of drivers in the top ten you know what what a week. -- second. JR third. Matt Browning Jeff flutes combined to finish fourth in -- hardy who's just Salomon an awful year. Brings up the rear in the NASCAR pick sponsored by out of Kraft and the pit crew. You can hear them on Thursday while -- also -- trap with you will be back. Sports daily -- Bruce in bomb on KF rich. Really don't like in nineteen. Make in the -- to bring in Melbourne games. What Chad Ochocinco I think if they are good roll of the dice if neither one works out they didn't give up a whole lot for them. Would be no -- players. Trick isn't backing Ratliff and the music -- -- just like He loved me. My mobile -- now this is amazing experience content. 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Top 100 project they're coming down here have played and why we did that is beyond me never. -- is due on that it's the thing is that the thing to do these days were depressed and can't are ranked mayhem whereas Preston Manning. Where is pressing Carrington on that list -- -- -- -- them a little -- when does that come out I'm curious about that. -- they beat cop then we'll come out the last week of this month we're down and out shoot the top forty we've done -- Thought sixty so far and will run from some more errors this coming. Sunday go from forty to 21 on them. And I wish it would them from -- to -- element than sort of to where it looked up and kind of are bailing. It -- down type type deal. Does Gary Woodland have enough juice already to get into the top ten it is a bigger seriously there as an ego that bit about the -- Mark Turgeon and some Ireland when they ranked. Yeah they're both gone there. Comments is higher. And really helped the there will be awhile before re -- it to him and He -- I think will be and probably coming up on the next and the next segment. Him and ask into -- capital journal sports columnist with us talking about. Some things that are going on I don't know we ran a story in Saturday's Paper about Bryce brown and I wanted to get to that and some of the things Bryce Brown was quoted as saying I'm not sure -- if you had the same kind of story about him or not. But I was taken -- a little bit biased some of -- Brown's comments we all know that. It's not a done deal with starting tailback at Kansas State it's really up in the air in fact if I had to guess. Based on the comments summer reading and and and some of the things some pairing. It doesn't appear to me that Bryce Brown as it is ahead in that competition right now -- surprise you. Not not exactly I mean many. And you know supposedly didn't have the great. Some lower in these young Schneider gets those sports and He mixes those fans so I think he's kinda. Maybe -- program right around a little bit He can give him some motivation there that's the -- go on but you know this -- Kansas State to order. Backfield by committee is has been a popular way to go in the month of September in the past we've got a pretty damn about that would Daniel Thomas and when He handled the ball at the time but. I concede Snider going to -- -- Carpenter. The one of their offensive assistant sort of know go a long time and I was -- their radio today that that's what He told me -- -- expect. When the season's start and now there's a surprise to -- another standpoint yes because bright well around the city -- shoulders over Wales. If you base it on me. -- ladies and star power and that all that kind of thing that just mattered little on the program relatively easy clearly gotten. These kind of find our guys and the one these. Haven't panned out metal it's going to be interesting about. Well I play around a little different situation and memories -- transfer is not coming in from high school but. But still that programmers. Little early helmet and a place for those guys they'd go on and forward. Only one of the surprising things about this twos and Arthur Brown's been so good and Friday Arthur Brown's been a guy that. Has said all right things he's working hardy's -- Drawn tremendous compliments and then from the coaching staff. You would think that that I don't know I just find the whole thing weird Bryce apparently spent most of his summer. In Wichita and in Tennessee. And why it was in Tennessee I have no idea. Instead of being in Manhattan. Which I gotta tell you that that -- that raises a lot of red flags for me. Right there. Well it does then in particular one. We don't have a whole lot of options -- -- -- to college football on mean you know it becomes a little war room wants to play I don't know but there. That episode about them but I -- I -- But the two Brothers perhaps of in -- him leaving them a little bit me and -- get. Go on here and move and looked up I mean He should use them. -- embraces weird man what's going on there but you know I'm Alexander started its. It's like -- or the other day these guys have no choice but you know conform with the program and and credit you're going in and camp and I still think he's. He's a guy I mean these. He's definitely learn the running back in that and then mix some things that actually got one guy that's. -- that Obama media's love roses I would order so why you have so I can't believe they're actually consider using him. It actually in a situation where they almost have to have Bryce Brown girls they're real trouble running back. You know they wouldn't. It wouldn't surprise me. You know that the playing through right now they've got to get that offensive line figured out a little bit they loss some starters. Some starters they've got a quarterback that threw eighteen times last year was. Used almost strictly as well -- literature so He got a proven itself as a passer and and I thought one of the the most disappointing. Position group last year at least on offense blues was played receiver I mean you got a lot of guys you've either got hurt or didn't pan out now. And talked about Michael's Schmidt the other day of their receivers coach. He's really happy with Chris -- graciously thank harper now it's finally figured out hey I'm no longer quarterback humble receiver. And it started start to understand. But -- not only a couple of receivers who hurt last year and then didn't supposedly work. Too hard during the offseason so. Panel saying you know -- -- -- -- one album and usually the most -- to anybody about -- before leaving more than Hendrick. So I was a little off -- just -- out there and get some questions and and then you got a defense -- Gave up more total rushing yards and -- mean defense in the country. Here and Kevin asking to peaking capital journal joins us let's what's two KU football. And spend though about eleven seconds. Off -- -- -- -- -- -- were rock creek. But we're talking about the jayhawks not a lot of optimism certainly there and not none. Warranted that I can see I keep looking and reading in trying to figure out something. Though I'm excited about with KU football he'd tell me what it should be. You know but I. And well. They'll be better because I really think that's the only way they can't go this will be better and you look at last year between significant wins that you get. -- is Georgia Tech and that coach panic in that game when Georgia Tech got behind. And started throwing the ball which is not Georgia Tech Sambo and really got you know Georgia Tech and also a game more than you wanted and then yet. Then Arkansas -- to below their fourth quarter lead Colorado on my game I mean. I'm Mars and Jupiter go lineman Dan Hawkins had to be old but whether it's an astronaut almost -- and it was slowed greatly. So you know -- do their three wins last year and it kind of came from the other team. So you know or really go from here I think the running back Serb. -- cost -- and I think they've got they've got a new director James sims -- knowing you live and you felt. Top player probably on the old team last year as a true freshman. The pharmacy field as a running back and recruit the very -- Miller get -- The series already -- the number two on the depth chart. So actually a good. Give back they've got the split blind so you'd think maybe they can move the ball a little bit on the on the ground that. You're almost saying yeah I mean they've been consistently moved the train. Last season you know their defense is. Was not good although it did improve as the season went along -- There's a lot a lot of holes where I'm in a conference is just going to be. Open cup so I I just don't see much of a -- have military you listen. Timlin are our third question from a caller today it was about -- you basketball -- -- -- -- tomorrow our take we'll throw that to you what what's the summer been like for the jayhawks and -- they. Kind of -- notes for the start of practices and October. And I think pretty quiet -- Nieminen and neither side can go you know I think. I mean you know what I. It will be interesting part about that team. Is you know like the backcourt and I -- Sean Taylor toe is capable. Navy looks in game Korea when He had a real. We all -- but I thought he'd be that you kinda lose the game form of the into the lake and last year and early and that. In that loss He played well. You know Thomas Robinson. May in fact I think is a huge. Key is this guy gonna be. A guy who can be down on the floor. Thirty maybe thirty plus minutes a game. And and dominate I mean He has got the body to dominate he's got some skills to do it. Although he's not in 99 and then made not a real adept -- the shooter and then have a great. They touch sometimes but. But I various strong it is getting the ball off the glass. You know and after they community convert. Rebounds and offensive baskets and you know -- -- be. So yeah I've just got to look at that the returnees without a -- give me another. Newcomer so much that I I think it's a that I it to really hit it solid saying it's one that's gonna lose some games. In nonconference because it was tough schedule but that's OK it's gonna make it -- -- upper. And you know that fact but -- the big twelve -- them recover. It is. You know went home and home schedule but I'm not sure the league is going to be that good this year sort thing. Tom -- and I think -- you know and. -- -- -- won seven straight titles so yeah why not if everything else is -- well I'm I'm I'm I'm not very smart when it comes to bat but I -- I didn't go to -- enjoys the sort of little game here for the -- your time here camera from a man come -- ask you to predict. And Paul you're going to be in this too. Bowl game for either K state your case you will that happen. Kevin. -- Yes or stay here and you get kind of -- trick. Okay well they've most likely would with a -- terrible games that are out there Paul I would agree. I would agree to the boy I'm not I'm not very confident either I think their quarterback I got us. I've got to see if Collin -- throw the football and I I'm just not very confident. In their in their team right now I think has some good pieces I think they'll be pretty they'll be decent -- -- rise above that but I'll go ahead and join. You guys and say yes KU. How far how deep of a run into the NCAA tournament. -- start with you on now. Sweet sixteen a sweet sixteen run for the Jadox. Kellen. I actually think only that I think sometimes it is better with so when they're not unexpected throughout. You know there's so I mean I've been as far as last year but but still I'm in right center I kinda like -- the chances to get that far. I got to lose and then in this like around maybe I got him employed in the valley and yes. We're very. At craven is gonna get him in the second round at Wichita State deep of a run into the NCAA tournament this year. -- -- I think they have a chance to make determine as far as a run. I wouldn't you know until -- Seymour I think that would be and be tough to predict how deep. How deep into the in this that's I don't know that there's kind of team with a winning game at this point until I see -- you know how some of those on the new guys are going to be able to contribute. Nick Kevin you're not as because of the way of the soccer's ability you're what are -- Wichita got for kind of and -- -- helping out first I mean how good -- -- going to be here they're gonna have to win better than. The conference tournament to get into the turn I don't think so that my early opinion on that is that I don't think so I think they'll get two teams in this year. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- Which does they would win the regular season title and I'd like -- I think regularly and winning game and not the NCAA determining. The ballot that but it confirmed nutrients. Then they will play the tougher schedule and you know a lot of times that that kind of bowl champion. A hard time matching up against it particularly in the first round. I say they do get them in and out of depending on on what their front line looks like and again we got to wait and see on that. They could win a game then they have a good they have outstanding. Backcourt so and I can take you along -- Kevin thanks for your time body. Eric Allen didn't get on the road and we'll get to you later we'll talk about the Chiefs at some point look at -- -- later that's Kevin asked him from the Topeka capital journal these sports columnists out there. And go get him on here before this. The NFL season starts talked about the Chiefs. We'll talk to Paul about the Chiefs to marry out of other topics. What else we have talked about today of course the soccer's and their trip over to Brazil. We've talked about Steve Williams and Adam Scott Adam Scott's win yesterday in the in the big -- and Akron Ohio. Major League Baseball and I'm curious to get Paul slots on the Royals he's. I don't think a diehard Royals fan but certainly a Royals fan. Were there -- they won yesterday against the Detroit Tigers. And we'll talk more Major League Baseball with Paul -- -- stay with -- us. 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And -- He became the quarterback of the Redskins defense and an integral part of the dominant Redskins teams of the 1970s. For a man said He didn't think too much attention to the NFL He picked up and perfected the nuances of the pro game very quickly. According to former Dallas Cowboys player personnel director Gil Brandt. Amber was very very smart and and He knew how to play football. He had great lady recognition. And coach Landry always felt that if we were going to be successful. And we had to somehow find a way. To negate. Chris' ability. In 1972 season hamburger helped lead the Redskins to their first ever Super Bowl -- He made game changing plays throughout the year as Washington won the NFC east with an eleven and three mark and beat the Packers and Cowboys in the post season. It is only career Super Bowl appearance He had four solo tackles and assisted on two others in a fourteen to seven loss to the Miami Dolphins in Super Bowl seven. Hamburg was selected first team all pro four times in a five season span from 1972 through 1976. He was also voted to nine pro bowls in his fourteen season career. But even those credentials couldn't bring into envisioned himself on a stage in camp one day. For me just being nominated what well got tremendous -- and -- it and it is just the most wonderful thing that happened to -- from playing football. With this pro football hall of thing profile I'm Scott Graham Westwood One radio sports. 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All I what the public about blowing your article on they would go public courses. I'd argue that ride on that and I wish. We can keep -- ball. I just think there attitude toward there. Golfers is to be improved tremendously. -- and I don't wanna paint. Everyone under the same blanket that and what my experience and plan these courses is kind of hit mess with customer service and and make every course has something to offer. And I would hate to see them close. I think there's a number of things that the city should look at before deciding to close the course. Yeah I agree with you wholeheartedly here. Every court has its good point is that point that it. Overall I I think there's other options. -- dampers shift call it thank our guy that's a damn and yeah interesting column about what kind of feedback have you gotten had He not gotten I've gotten a few. On to ten to fifteen emails from people -- and they all agree him and quite a few of them have contacted their city councilman and I just think that -- golfers. You know pretty sacred to me in and I'm not that -- any kind of golfer I'm just a hack and a guy that likes to play on. Weekends and get out and liked to play the city courses as I said I think they all have. Something unique to offer. And -- I think that there's just things to look at here before you decide to close one and and -- at the top of the list is. Customer service. You know in the when they took some of those fees away from the pros out at these places I think. A lot of the attitude is -- -- we don't have -- to gain here so we'll just open up to shop and if you come play fine if you don't find. Anybody stepped up to defend the customer service of the city night yes night. What I -- I and I haven't heard anyone do that yet. And again there's a lot of part timers kids I get that I'm talking about that the pros and and that the people who should be out there and in front. Making you feel like when you -- down that 33 dollars and sixty cents which is -- you know that's that's a lot more than it costs go to a movie. That they appreciate you taking the time to do that because that is an expenditure. And I believe it's so worthwhile expenditure I think I get my money's worth certainly with the number of shots. In every round of golf I've played that. -- on his -- think. I think our city needs to take us a strong look at that and and justice. They hit us with we're gonna close the course that I didn't appreciate that what would you do with all that -- I guess I don't want my questions and that's a great close to me. That's a great that's a great question. I don't know that's been answered. If our city I would take a look at privatizing these golf course this. Hiring management firms command and run them for you. That's how -- creek is around a number of other golf courses. In our area have private management. I kind of liked that idea. I just think there needs to be a lot of discussion. Had here before. We actually. Bolt down one of these golf courses to hate see that happen I hate hate to see it come to that. Yet to see you are and I think the call point that out just geographically you you know you -- Cordoned off a section of the city depending on what you which when you shut down that would be. Now be ashamed. No Clapp park as the one that most people. Kind of to do so there's certainly been nothing coming from the city about this but. Kind of and anticipate would be the one closes. Its the least of the five municipal golf course is in town but. You closed out Clapp park and you don't have public golf and a large quadrant of your city and I don't think that's advisable. I don't know his side I'm curious to get up to one of these public meetings that they're gonna have and hear what people say. There -- a lot of golfers who are loyal to these golf courses. And I know the city's not taking it lightly. But. I don't agree that that that they should close a golf course that's just my opinion fourth through 61240 is a number. Paula is a marginal well how what kind of a royal on a one to ten scale. Where are you with the Kansas City Royals -- -- 67. B yeah. I think I'd be fair you know when I lived at then you know I don't want to Benedict and -- in saint you know it was probably an eight or nine -- -- you were there it was an easy thing you know you go to a lot of games. You know prices moved Wichita. And combining with the fact the rules have not been not been very good for a long long time and you yankees tend to lose a little bit of interest. But I will say. You know I've probably over the last two weeks I've watched a lot of Royals baseball. And part of that is you know just timing your home here all those kind of things but they've been playing well I would say for the first time since. I don't know what you have to go back to 1999 to say look at that lineup and say there's some there's a lot of real legitimate Major League Baseball. Players and they're not they're not an easy lineup to navigate through now with and now. They just called the of the lose the second baseman -- easier the tell that we had a had an outstanding weekend series against Tommy homer Troy Tigers. They add him to the mix He replaces Chris gets at least for now at second base. He Eric Hosmer who's. Done everything as a rookie would have hoped -- see absolutely. Been outstanding. Alex Gordon who finally we have any questions any longer about Alex Gordon He is a legitimate. Major League hitter I'm not sure I like him in the lead off spot down the road but that's where is right now and he's done a very good job there. Melky Cabrera seven agree a year Jeff Francoeur is having a year Billy Butler solid. Like through like we said their lineup is difficult they have ways than they have a good Major League lineup. They could use some more power. But but they look pretty good I'll see this Escobar has been. The good player at shortstop good defensively. Hit some in the second half of the season and I don't know about Mike in the stock is what are your impressions of him could defensively. Obviously has struggled at the plate they give them a couple days off. You know I think he's kind of -- obviously you're going to be very patient with him and and as long as He doesn't seem totally overwhelmed I think he's going to be your third baseman. Held on the beat the Tigers yesterday after jumping out for -- nothing I didn't see the the late game discussion. That that led to the injection of Alex Gordon and then -- did you have -- policy that. As I was watching. Alex took a pitch that was low it was. Very borderline He thought He was on his way to first base with a walk. And He was taken a step or two. And a look like He had started it and kind of tosses his bat as He was jogging to first base -- the third hurt himself get -- up on the called third strike in the in the the bat He definitely discussed her frustration or whatever. Threw the bat all the way to the backstop and immediately was thrown out videos came out to defend a guy in. He got thrown out pretty -- so it was. I don't know -- announcers did not think it was warranted. And in my mind it was an umpire and maybe a little bit quick on the trigger. That's my empire my favorite umpire on my new favorite rob Drake. Who had the altercation with the audio Molina and Milwaukee last week that led to the five game suspension of Yadier Molina. Very inconsistent strike zone listen I'm not arguing holiness five games is that suspension I think that was warranted. But this guy had a horrible strike zone all day long in that game and I believe it was just accumulation of frustration. I don't know what the Royals Tigers strike zone was like previous to that. Called that rob Drake. C'mon he's he's -- I have a good thing about the roses you know on these guys that are in their twenties they're not you know no line up of 34 year old retreads and things like that they've got some. Like that they've got some guys who you feel like to go out there and if you're paying your money or laughter Monty that legitimate major league baseball players and it's been awhile I think has rules fans felt that way. -- it's the you're on the show. I don't painted changed the subject but I just on. Calling it and wanted. -- and any children you know the top one huge egos in the Paper about me the camera in my field. Or even -- out to all what does that mean now did you get out here's my question what is your -- Where's my opinion there's there's five. Great high school basketball players that changes this city. Dark now and wrong. Here Oscar -- Want published it will not on the air and I wanna know why I'm pretty sure are. Well OK I'm. I'll just leave it at that question Dellucci got -- I. Appreciate it am neither Paul nor I was heavily involved in this. Top 150 projects so I can't really speak authoritatively. If if Robert -- wasn't in the top fifth 150. I don't know -- -- -- and I'm not sure who was in the top 150 in those. Lower areas but I would think that I -- Sharaud would be. Pretty good pretty good. Candidate for the top 100 -- Sure He was guy who has discussed. You know if you're looking for reasons why He wouldn't have been in there. Let's think about restaurants that are obviously fantastic high school career in a very good career Wichita State. Any kind ended there He was I believe was draft in the NBA and then handsome handsome tryouts that chance and didn't make it. So yeah good question and and he's certainly not first -- the people of tossed out of me over the last couple days you know why wasn't this guy and -- was this guy -- very subjective -- kind of things. Opera would be good name. And I have to take a look at some of those He would not be even when you're talking about the whole state of Kansas on restaurant's name. Doesn't necessarily jump out to me. Real early in the conversation. I don't know it's -- and some of those guys and you know all of that down baby belongs in the. I'm gonna be Irish -- as a representative for a moment I'll say that He played at a time with a three point shot was not in effect. Easy I believe the number two all time score. In the what's -- city league behind Greg traveling I think come ride on that don't hold me to that one would have done always three years right as opposed to drownings full ride. And where would He be on Wichita State's scoring chart I believe he's fourth all time in scoring model to go that. Well on -- -- and Alan either where is -- in Wichita State's all time list. You have your media dad is Santo is I'm throwing my when He arrived and and I could that I can get it -- -- -- -- -- can't help you -- Littleton. McDaniel. Stalwarts tolerance. -- Certainly he's fourth when He you know and if you can be an Antoine. I don't know I would I will you know what will investigate that during the break I mean it's one point oh Beers have they had the three point shot. Where would arbor sure Robby. Tom -- as everybody else on the three point shot too or just how well he's a guy would have benefited from a mental stride. Mean I don't Stallworth will hit some threes no question about it not a lot. That really wasn't in long range shooting wasn't his strength McDaniel probably would He have made a three and his soccer career. -- not many a few may be. -- Robert had it. -- at his senior year. The valley experiment and one year now I have to look at that to think that pops in an operation Rodney comes a point of discussion here and you know let's get back to the phones and we're jumping all over the place and subject matter today. This is -- conversational have with the with the commissioner and Tommy. After the show. Andrew. Hey I did it -- He had electric city Ortiz -- There aren't bad but not right now. There is -- season He loses that one in the is this senator Bob knows He Kansas City sporting -- as I have no idea the answer is the former Kansas City Wizards. And I'll tell you I mean I. Is this CL -- already in this this is my demographic here I guess. Now you know and I -- to Kansas city's sports talk radio so I'm kind of aware that they've been playing well but here's my. I like soccer I had and I love the World Cup. The other three -- paid passing attention tends to Obama anti soccer. But when people started talking about Kansas -- morning's hot streak and and they were six wins zero. Los is an eight times that the Sox all the air out of the room for me. I think ties are -- get it it's part of the soccer culture like kind of stuff. Eight ties it did did you sliced soccer's I don't know I'm just not here I showed children play aside they did a little bit not really now so I -- real hole and there's something there's something about this whole discussion that bothers me. Let's take a break we'll come back and we wool socks -- No more soccer. And I -- You know what I I I value you and your friends out there you're smart you probably have. Some smart knowledgeable sports friends out there but if you're gonna bring soccer to the show on a regular basis we're gonna have three things -- -- Our whole aspect of this somewhere soccer -- are number two of sports daily straight ahead stay on the phone with -- holding we wanna get He had John. And talk more of the which Tar -- top 150. Athletes list that's coming up second hour sports daily. Sports daily with Bruce didn't bother them on KM stage. -- -- makes it sound simple to hide under the dollars and consulates. The watched them go out and fight every possible way to -- you even more money. Good trotted -- -- He can't discount even good teams and don't forget looking fine. A discount -- try -- -- like yourself. Fine Candace in if you pay attention. About. -- three great quote -- a I a dot com to see how much you could Geico fifteen minutes but it 15% or more on insurance. 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Months we'll visit to athletics. -- station in America employees sometimes -- Andre go. -- -- -- -- -- -- 8774361240. This is sports daily we. -- -- -- -- -- That's created Scotts -- Of the band's creative. Deserve band creed anymore turns 38 today. What's the latest with creed -- you aware mr. musical and creek Colorado this summer is -- you're out of gas. Treat the man I'm -- You know you like Bruce hurdle are music's -- And we will play some from the -- like later in the show I'm more of I allowed all analyzed I love all. But it's not a certain. Fit for you guys. Then you're not that interest I think Bruce is way out of my league I'm not nearly as serious about it nearly -- tuned in has Bruce's -- that's -- your big Springsteen got a lot of -- like a lot of people are. How many times you've seen him I think seven rate that's impressive. It's from its -- early in the -- Springsteen fan amount -- barely scratching the surface there's gather you people say that there's some people they -- theory had given haven't even like I haven't even been one town to a lot of people. Fourth through 61240. Is a number we're here to talk about a Marietta subjects. Baseball right now of course I'm always zoned in the baseball the Cardinals. Completing a sweep on the road in Florida. And Milwaukee Milwaukee going into Houston and pounding the Astros. That's become a two team horse race and then nationally central. Brewers leading Saint Louis by three games they hook up 43 at Busch Stadium starting tomorrow and I don't bother me. If you've got some function you want me to go to Tuesday Wednesday Thursday night as if anybody wants me at their function that. In case you do I will not show up I'd prefer to have no phone calls texts. Any thing on the social media. Amenities are locked in to those three games. And it's nice to be in a pennant race. But that's good stuff there some dislike there I think because somebody doesn't really care about -- those teams a fun series to pay attention to no identity -- a -- I'm not caring about -- -- establishing myself -- -- as a as an outside -- -- I would pay attention in Milwaukee Saint -- because there's some excitement there's some. And just like there's some history that's that that makes for. For interesting baseball you know number ready desist to tangle with this Todd -- our friends from the -- -- -- trivia had a month have a little Brewers Cardinals fan throw down with -- that would be good. Maybe you may lose give him during the break not -- France or do you have a lawyer and get -- hold him I have that. He covers the Indiana State sycamores for the -- Paper he's a big big Brewers fans. And blood is so like the Brewers -- not a team that I like that they come in Saint Louis. Tomorrow night in this start a series. With the Cardinals were the Royals where -- there off that's another at home tonight against the. I think on the road Tampa Bay Derrek Lee go to Tampa Bay throws down on the -- reading it wrong Paper now. So you've got that and we're crushed to see the Pirates spiraling out of control I would have been -- That was a fun story you'll -- us on this horrible and then apparently managers ever since you're visitor in this kind of gone as well I don't know if things are connected are not -- You know when I was there they were right there and to sell out crowds at PNC park and I've become so accustomed over the years to seeing. Empty seats in that ballpark which is. Just an amazing ballpark it's right there on the convergence of the Allegheny and some other emotion and I'm Daniel and the Ohio as loud -- three on them I'm not real salary goes there there's no way am going to be able to say that correctly. Yeah it's lives have you been to Pittsburgh I've never may have flown through so now I've never is an interesting city because you have those Rivers so. It separates the city and in it makes it there's tunnels and all kinds of stuff it's. I like Pittsburgh if I can just find my way around that place it was very difficult to navigate. But I really enjoy the city. And and think you know it leaves only two. Two or three cities that have Major League sports franchises that I have not been to three Portland Seattle. And Philadelphia. That's pretty impressive. That is -- -- You need to get Philadelphia run up the steps of the Rocky statue in and do all I need to get out to Seattle. Wednesday and then just drop down to Portland He says founders game one -- that's the place in the ambulance has its founders. Now how long does this MLS thing going on and -- on the poser I just have seen some. In some highlights and they really get into it like the number one place for soccer drilling in Seattle. Yes it played in the new stadium in Kansas City yes and I think that Andy and again we're talking when Warsaw as well. But if you wanna be interested in soccer and I can't really claim that I do not -- things -- -- soccer only stadiums her and has got to carry that league if you stick him in. Arrowhead and there's 20000 people 7000 seat stadium or. But to get him in the soccer specific stadiums and it looks like. You know real fun big time sporting. That's on and so they start playing well and I and -- games got to carry a thing yet. So I know you're an NBA fan in years and specifically if Phoenix Suns fan. And I'm an NBA playoffs span. I've I've wanted to ask you this question for awhile now. Convince me why. And we'll talk about the potential of the of this lockout dragging into the regular season how many games you think they they could miss. Convince me that the regular season. Is a place to be that I'm missing outs -- by not. Dialing in the regular season of the NBA. Well -- I mean it's like it's like baseball you know you gotta have hope that you in -- and pick up things that are gonna. Matter over the whole course of the season and I think the NBA is like a lot of things. If you watch one game. You know out of context. Not as enjoyable as if you watched the whole you know if you watch a whole series of games and and you began to pick up on things. Which I think this is it was all sports I mean -- you may not. Particularly. If you fall into one which I'll stay injury basketball game -- May not be particularly enjoyable but I think you get more out of it if you watch over them. Over the whole season and you -- news you know pick up you know substitute patterns and who plays well -- situations lineup worked together all those things so. Yeah I mean I wouldn't try to convince you and all 82 and be in her life and death and you know -- -- to answer -- travel on those back to back games because every game played it you know breakneck pace than like against. Now but I think a lot of them -- and I find it entertaining. You're not the first person to say what about baseball 162 games He kidding how do you get in in that regular season to differences. Few teams get into the playoffs and baseball as an especially proportionately there 50% of the NBA that are gonna get in -- the playoffs. There are. Just over 25%. That are gonna make it in baseball that's one difference the second differences how much the numbers mean in baseball how much of statistics. Mean in baseball. You know you got guys pursuing stats winning games of those kinds of things and they accumulate. I don't know I guess I I see your point to a degree I'm trying to provide them a bit of a difference as -- why I can get into a baseball. Regular season which is an endurance test as this NBA. And maybe not so much in the NBA because I know. I know where I'm gonna see it in the NBA is in the playoffs. I'll put the NBA playoffs against almost anything in sports I think that I good. They're so much better than the regular season but you being a Suns fan who knows when he'll be able to follow them in the playoffs again. That's it's a fair point and I'm not -- baseball I just think the sports are similar in that if you're a fan of a specific team it's great to solid day today because you enjoy that. You know it's not a -- of us as a team than you know one game. Doesn't matter a whole lot and they you know they all kind of seeing the same until they get to you know dramatic point in the playoffs -- -- those kind of things certainly those are fair points. What you always see an NBA game again your your best guess. I don't know everything I read is all over the map to get. Few people are optimistic. Obama I think them you know if you were to look at it. I'm mid range optimistic there thinking maybe you maybe you get in fifteen games start the season. January huge and you know on that and -- be -- knock on the NBA is that a lot of people won't even notice and certainly won't certainly won't mind too much. Yeah. That's not good. Right you can't see -- football missed four games this year it would be an uprising yeah. I and I think that's one of the dangers you don't wanna put people in the position where they thought discovered that can live with voucher. But not your product and I think that's something in the NBA isn't real danger of doing. Paul salt truck from the which -- -- with us this morning Bruce's back in house. Friday's so -- lineup the rest of the week for it tomorrow Paul is back. And will be joined by Joseph Rocco who will. Take your memorabilia questions starting at about 930. Will roll with that for about hopefully an hour I know a lot of you. Are from the some of the things you hold on -- here to answer those questions on Wednesday shame Dennis. Is in the house will interview Mike Pelfrey pitcher for the New York Mets at 10 AM on Wednesday and again shame back with us on Thursday. Highlighted. Its highlighted too strong a word. By the pit crew at 10 o'clock Warren -- 81 speedway and out of crafts JR Surtain. That's look into the week. And we're getting closer and closer to football. If you tune in to ESPN radio as I do it's locked in and that's why I have my dial said it's always talked about. Where in the middle of some good pennant race is in baseball. Maybe just a tinge early for that but the NFL. Your thoughts on the pervasive nature of the NFL in today's society and is it good for sports because. Really there's nothing that comes. Even close anymore to the national football. Like the NFL yeah I would agree and I think that's reflection of you know this is a bigger broader conversation about ESPN's dominance of the sports world and they pretty much you know I think they -- so large part of the agenda and you know clearly I mean when your watch and an NFL com vines and try -- on TV and yeah I think it's it's out of control as far as -- Amount of -- we get on the NFL. I'm with you I'm a little more interested in baseball right now and him NFL exhibition games which I think one of the biggest rip -- going. Then that total rip Bob because they fortunate by the but do the you know the discussion and they are fellow's been interest in the last couple weeks no question about it all the player movement people love that stuff. I think they should block out every year and start the player movement. And when they did it this year the -- we -- July I think it's fun I mean it's it's out it's exciting it's interest thing. I've gotten into it. I would say that I'm probably more of an NFL fan and you are. You're Mormon NBA and soccer fan and I apparently I've learned today well in anybody's more of -- soccer tournament. Not NFL's great and you can't argue the deal level of interest people will all listen to it apparently 24 hours of that. There's and there's a lot of lot of interesting things going on I just think how many times do you have to hear hear about. A seal Ohman you're the New York Giants her. Or rather than just DeSean Jackson and Philadelphia Eagles this just over kill me it's just talked about ad nauseam. And He gets tiresome. In that how many times you heard Adam Chester and John Clayton and and there's the other guy Chris -- them. Interviewed I mean that is just nonstop. -- out there aren't that many stories out there. That the other than you know some of the player movement is big but it's just it's just so pervasive. Part time let's take a break we'll try to reach Todd Golden of the terra haute Tribune. 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Sports dailies with the routes and -- on KS page. Radio dot com. That is. If Boston sequels always score from that spanned 55 today on the way to roll out. I think everybody listening today appreciates the fact that we played the -- underground. The stylistic. Creed. And flocked to -- Eagles. Let's get to Todd Golden from the terra haute Tribune. And I gotta say Todd right now I'm not sure what tortilla. Well you know I do. Mike Cameron now on Florida doesn't do that nonsense anymore on the Brewers. Knows I was watching their games and of course somewhat -- the Cardinals broadcast. Because I can't I. Can't stand listening to bill shredder Schroeder -- on on the Brewers. But that the Brewers have grown up a little bit in that regard them not to show boating. Team maybe they were few years back so I'll give them that is that is at a concession. I I think that the concessions I think a lot of -- to a manageable it's cool to do I think recchi has. A little stream of professionalism this year that as the missing and faster pierce. Down it's it's a definitely equality team. They come to Saint Louis as I said started three game series tomorrow night. Managed now by as you said Ron -- Nikki added some pieces to their starting pitching staff which was a tremendous weakness last year. With -- Shaun Marcum and Zack Greinke. Come an end to elevate that starting staff and -- Vonnie guy out of despite its really slow start this year. Has turned it around. You're probably feeling pretty confident I would guess. It to a degree I am concerned the pitching has been especially since the all star break has been outstanding. Pitching has. The Brewers choose this thing which quicker position. Or Francisco Rodriguez's. Is a big key. It prior to the all star break their bullpen is giving away -- -- they have lost twenty games and -- people and losses until they all star -- -- get a lot of games away. Since then and it pretty solid my concern is. With the current lineup they have some injuries and open jacket so they've been lucky that didn't let the director of the National League that place used to weekend in a row but it. Few weeks being missing a concern and Corey -- heard over the weekend and is expected to play. In Saint Louis. Back to under percent so that's stepped a little bit concerned and in the -- world you. Now watch a lot of that series in general drew great crowds to Milwaukee FA. Threw for more even sober. So my question I do about the Brewers. Is what what do they have against Tony La Russa -- what why does He draw so much acrimony amongst Brewers fans. -- It's mutually exclusive Denver and I decided -- definitely to London and -- is right because there's a great schooling. -- -- Yeah and thinking you know -- normally a leaky at Miller Park you know let's just. That's just my entry -- so he's trying to get through this and opponent. And I -- to try and that's tough course so that players although what the current management that ghost. They seem to try and end up being all work that the slightest provocation. And the Wear and I'm glad -- is management -- -- an even keel but. And access that people don't care for people are successful in that role to. And unpredictable. -- you -- get we don't get here vote. One of my favorite thing just watched it reverses course and because it's. -- -- and in the be old and as you know it's. It took part in the -- -- teachings a lot of breaks. -- you know I've I've been I've not been around Tony La Russa Tom obviously that's not my gig but I have. Been around him inside things that aren't televised. That are just you know you're going to the clubhouse. Or to or seen him in the dugout pregame. And he's very loose and very cordial. But I just think he's not comfortable in those close games that's that's my thought and I and I certainly applaud the having Tony La Russa as the manager of the Cardinals and ask you this the Brewers last week against Albert Pujols. Pitched -- high -- Contained him He didn't do a lot of damage in that series do you expect that to be there there. Lose strategy this week. Absolutely no let it get away from that fact I don't think they're going to be. You know sleep but -- but histrionics -- happen in this game of that series that I think people who understand -- black with the Cardinals in this. Know that you know what the Spurs were doing I don't think was out of the bounds of normal you know. Cold and so. Yeah out it totally expect them to pitch pujols as well as Holliday as well as furcal and high and tight as they won't and they would anybody else -- might be a threat to zero pitches and I'd expect the Cardinals just into the -- hitters are an infielder and and if he's healthy heart so. Just part of the game and I think you know things got a little hand and that's game obviously but I. I don't expect that carry over victory over among the emotions of the tense but it. You know but that's normal. Todd Golden terra -- star Tribune with -- polio and innocent bystander in all this this listening to this conversation. Who sounds more arrogant right now. Anybody with a lot of miles of the Milwaukee I was loose on a side that's just -- level there against the goes to the Cardinals without. Out without question I think my question that drugs. I wanna know about Yuniesky Betancourt who loses mocked hated reviled by Royals fans and glad to get rid of him. Apparently he's playing in all of baseball for the Brewers. It's all breaking out there and he's been -- for a wild and it -- at. Purchase -- play about play in the early part of this is what to a game in Milwaukee. And -- is -- is that terrible is due -- albeit. Insulting people left terrible -- and he's not and then in the -- -- that would mayor Bart and I think He was basically thrown tend to get Greinke the Brewers take off their hands. Just go out are breaking if you get. He's still a defensive you know major offensive liability which is why it until -- -- the Brewers are actively trying to acquire shortstop so. Have to live with -- -- from my perspective he's played well lately and but it do I expect it to continue no not at all. Let's switch up and talk Indiana State basketball because this is -- valley country in the sycamores who were. Kind of a surprise a little bit last Cheryl -- -- they won't have that surprise element. Going for them this season that's a program that looks to be a really good shape and some. Very good recruiting has gone on there. Yet they that the class they have coming in next year -- Is one of the best they've padded insert in my time they have. They continue to get lucky with a lot of local kids that have decided to do that have been good and I have also decided to commit the program they have eight. Power forward coming in picture that your crashed and adjusting can't. Real good player real good touch inside yep English -- You know their with their offense that's how it is good passers. It's a good fit. Richard Lester ready to run you know it. Terrorists which starts at belong in ninety championship prime which is gonna do that a world of good coming into this into the following either. -- -- very short and see -- turn around so it's out -- and expose it to which it was more productive for the team that you know it next year. And it goes straight out and so they've been kept -- even feel like I've been able to. Reporting out of my if you open -- during the summer and and you know that is that the veteran leadership is still there are so. Certainly there's a lot about optimism about any state this year going to be interesting to see if they can move. Terry overload. You know the last. George weeks perceived them and turn it into a very productive not paparazzi who wished it could not have last year. Yeah their the big man I think would be the thing that you know if they want to continue to get better and and and take another step did they get bigger in the offseason. Epic if they'd have an -- can't they have backed it shall -- redshirt last year. A big and in terms of you know traditional post players you can stretch the floor. It kept him coming in my locker got. A lot better as the season went along He was just -- In in the which cost a lot so belly terminator is probably the biggest key in interstate ten in that game but He did a good defensive job that. Which cost states army a big man who. Since little doubt the most among other things are stuck to graduate of course that. He's he's improved. And so they -- a little bit more depth coming in lecture at the -- but I don't know that anybody's gonna be an impact player. But certainly enough to get them by and you know create. -- defensive interference prepare for their guards to do what they can do and and underrated player is Richard true. You know plays in the post and also get out on the floor and and he'll be seen an extra he'll be a big key as well. Hi Tom well good luck on your job and in your life and and all that. I wish you really bad luck the next three nights out of Busch Stadium Saint Louis. Well I -- -- exactly the same I really enjoyed these games and extra when they're still nine more ago. Yeah there are there are a lot of lot of Bruce Cardinals left in the regular season for sure. Take care okay thanks Todd. And I that's -- Todd Golden from the Terre Haute. Star Tribune or favorite cities and are favored valley stops right Paul. Sure sure it's you know. A lot -- cities have a lot of similar mistakes mistakes while Jimmy Johns. There. Some similarities between all of them for what your three favorite stops on the volley pretty favorites stops. I think you have to say Omaha is number one and it's probably left up there. You know because I had really good experience is their last two or three years you know -- happened finals spent a lot of time in Omaha because you kind of get -- with me what's good -- FedEx -- and drive up there and you drive back after the game but being up there for. -- tournament baseball and and point it just all -- nice nice job with that area down there. So I've I've explored a little bit more the last couple years has spent more time there. But I always go back to Peoria. I just pure is a good -- just like that downtown arena it's a different side they take the basketball very seriously and in and -- Bradley and in February it's a big deal there. Like stay in downtown I don't always in downtown a lot of times do and you. -- to the game you can walked from restaurants so it's kind of a different different feel. It was great when they have the Bradley Illinois State stop you know that that played two games and grind in three nights or whatever and and -- is that that's a good that's a good place to be up -- that there. Yeah and -- -- three would be normal for Illinois State they they've gotten a pretty good set up there. You and and they've done some things with their downtown where it's kind of -- nice place to stay out of -- normal Bloomington normal at twin cities'. Really nice valley city nice and clean others it's. Enough to do with this guy coming at the big city feel yet it's still kind of a small college town and I like that place also. Are -- right let's take a break we will come back and continue on sports daily. Joseph Rocco in the house tomorrow to talk memorabilia please mark that. From 930 to 1030. -- can answer all your memorabilia questions comments. You have something and you're not sure what to do worth. Give us -- call Montauk to -- hill. 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You -- search suggests smokers who light a cigarette first thing in the morning have a better chance of getting cancer the most trusted name in news this is CNN radio. -- on the air at 12:40 AM and 97. Yeah scorched ailing -- Bruce and bond and on occasion and an ancient. Your back that's you Q obviously in the edge. Turns fifty today with the edge realize what a cool man that they can't be many Iraq general names of who. And -- to pull it off to. The one thing if He was tough -- -- wanna be like that. As in the -- it's fine today not a -- it is them. -- -- -- -- is good. You know it collective souls and little montage. Of songs from the eighties and -- And they they started doing some sweet sound -- play the guitar riff to. Good song -- best ever in my opinion. -- even out the NBC World Series. For five days I believe yes and I'm sure what you follows some of the shock yours. That are in this tournament with some interest who's looking good. Yeah that's always one of the fun things to go out there and keep on -- soccer's. Yeah I think who's had some it's been Goodyear to -- a shot present Tyler -- hours in the data that's jumped out of -- he's been playing second base. For the -- center diamond dogs and is really hit the ball well. And seems to be fine they're defensively you know He played played third base most of the season for Wichita State are a lot of the season in Dave Parker. And may have put a little second that most the time his third it was interesting to see him at second base and He seems to be fine there. But boy really hit the ball well and it's I think obviously in my opponent in and they're always looking for is going to be guys can hit. And it's fun talking to -- on about him because you know if you fly into las Tahoe last year he's one of those guys that is spots on the spot from the law actually plays plays all out all the time. That's been good. You do McGreevey has had a couple real nice. Relief outings for the forresters he's having a -- tournament. But maybe the most interesting things and you've kind of gotten what I would think is maybe a preview of the shortstop -- walker Davidson has been playing shortstop for the -- to eat. And then Josh Albert has been playing shortstop. For. -- on the team he's with may be liberal but he's been playing shortstop to. And I think those are two of the guys -- going to be you know be good candidates to replace town -- shortstop for Wichita State -- interesting to watch walker. He played second base from which to Austin last season and so unsure about his arm but He seems to have -- have a good enough form to play over there. Are you bled mean. Michael horse to -- ask you about the -- of your thoughts on what soccer baseball. Could look like in 2000 and and twelfth. What do we expect the you've mentioned some guys that. That's so far we don't know what time about we know Kuhn our had a had a good freshman year. That where do you think the shoppers are headed. But I think we really would have. To postpone that until August 16 because they've still got some guys out there who have been drafted who have not signed. And you know. Depending on how they do. You know I guess I was about -- I think most of will be back but I think it withdrew following the draft three years it's dangerous to say that. Give our listeners -- -- and it's Johnnie Cole had a great summer from the north was league Mitch -- is in town pitching for the Santa Barbara forresters He had a good summer. Josh Smith is pitching for the liberal Vijay is. Author of those guys got drafted. You know all three of them come back to Wichita State that's of any help if they lose one or two or three of them. You know and that's a major problem I would gas and again I'm just kind of going off you know nothing recent haven't talked to those guys that probably Josh Smith is most likely. To sign. I think the other two I would. I would lean -- saying they'll be back but it you know as we've seen is just no guarantees I think it's kind of this next. Week ten days of become nervous time for us if they keep those guys and and that really helps out. Big picture regardless obviously you know it's a -- easier for them and into an NCAA regional in two years and and nobody around here. Is used to matter -- happy with Patten and. Yeah one year they did get to a regional the last three years was probably is the were -- team arguably of all time. Right right you know one Death Valley tournament and one about tournament at home and probably got the regional bids. Now -- the 2019. They probably got a reasonable that that 2000 team turned 2010 team deserved. It out so. Valley tournament next years in Springfield a chance strike out which we like that place yeah saxophone players have turned. Yeah ballpark you know the attendance thing you know the negative is. There's always going to be when you move -- -- -- -- how well is He going to be. Not Creighton. Omaha last spring did a decent job they got treated poorly by the weather but. By the champs -- game they had 67000 people there that was that was encouraging from that standpoint. What's a long term in your opinion for Wichita State baseball we get this question a lot during that the season genus. It's not young man anymore how long do you anticipate. Him coaching. Well he's turned 66. This month -- already have this I think is 66. Is around this time so He is He will be 66 going into baseball season. You know what I can tell he's working hard and still passionate and enthusiastic I -- -- see those things from him. I think He enjoys it every you know and ask you about the last couple years he's always insistent that He will be back that you coach is. You know offer for many more years and He still enjoys -- still enjoys you know teaching coach and being around the guys on that kind of stuff. Solving -- any time. In in the near future. You know we'll. We'll see in RD garrido battling it out for all time when rounds two war horses. Argue down there at Texas. Probably has a little bit you know I think he's just a little older than gene if from if I'm right about that I think so the -- has a little bit better situation in terms of the number wins he's gonna get a year. At least for right now right at least is it looks right now so. That's an interesting battle on the on the phenomenal write something about that as we the close of the baseball season from the other perspective of those two coaches. I find it very interest -- -- if you watch the World Golf Championships but I'm curious about your thoughts on Tiger Woods don't know Rivera. Than ever ask you about tiger. A study conducted his post. Tournament interview yesterday. On CBS. Pretty well thought He came crosses. Little bit you know more gregarious smiling. Laughing it up a little bit about this caddie. Whereas Tiger Woods. As a player and as a human being. But in the -- -- it you know hide. Not being a golf sky don't spend a lot of time thinking about Tiger Woods I probably have a reaction a lot of people dude you know kind of is. -- -- -- Answers. You know when He was really going good we're kind of frustrating you always like to. Have those kind of figures like you in a little bit and you know own shoulder more there their personality -- sense of humor there those kind of things. So from that standpoint maybe he'll become a little bit more you know approachable a little bit more. Real. It'll be interesting to see. Can -- get it back I mean I don't think he'll ever be what He was. -- -- and He you know get himself back to the point where He can win a few more majors and where He can. You know maybe -- -- and it is you know Jack Nicholson's. Mark. I don't expect him to get there but it would be great story if -- were you know rehab his game point Ortiz in winning a man and Manger wants. Yeah I don't know we're gonna see that I use of it definitely had no place off tee boxes this weekend. -- short game is putting especially wasn't good. He made some shots from the fairway that reminded you of the old Tiger Woods but you just wonder at the age of close to now 36. One all the injuries have done wall all the salute them. The controversy in his life has done them as a player. If I had to guess and how tough it is to win majors are only four of them a year. There are a lot of good young golfers on this tour right now He saw that again this weekend. If I had to guess I'd say. He's not gonna get necklaces record of eighteen even though Ford doesn't sound like that many. For sounds like a heck of a lot more than sounded like before the Thanksgiving Day incident a couple of years ago. Was have nine more years knew what it was 45 that you would think you have at least a fighting chance to put it together four times a year. Yeah if you if you think you can get it done at 45 that says the new wave of young players is this is a legitimate. Talented group you know for a lot of years. We went along in the stir and you -- questioned the quality of the young players especially the young American players who were coming into the game and I think now you see. A lot of real quality young players coming into this game I think that's only gonna continue. Makes this sport is much more. Worldwide than He used to be. I don't know how much I wanna take no on Tiger -- getting de -- sounds like you wanted to try to convince me that he's gonna get gonna get there. I think you've taken a safe bet but I think going to be interesting to see you know maybe He. Maybe He are you rooting for the guy now I'm not I don't know. No feel no opinion. A terrorist you think how long do you think He would continue to do it if he's finishing 37. You think at some point He would just say. Enough. I think He feels like he's healthy if that if I gained anything from his interview yesterday -- that that's that He feels like. He's healthy for the first time in a long time that the knee and the feed and everything everything's good he's gone -- the soft spikes with looks strange on Tiger Woods is choosing his wiring that. They decrease the torque on his legs and -- swing I think He feels healthy. I think we're gonna learn a lot about him this week at the PGA championship. If he's able to get into the top ten and I think we start to raise an eyebrow but if He finishes. Again in the 20s30s forties and I think he's got a. Question himself going forward a little bit. That must mean we're due for a break Tommy third restore some music so we'll take a break. We are brought to you via our three favorite golf courses in the area. 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